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jonnie - 2006-11-02 9:11 AM Hitler wasn't Jewish, he was catholic (though the Church of Rome doesn't really like being reminded of that). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler#Childhood_and_heritage Childhood and heritage Adolf Hitler as an infant.Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889 at Braunau am Inn, Austria, a small town in Upper Austria, on the border with Germany. He was the third son and the fourth of six children of Alois Hitler (born Schicklgruber) (1837–1903), a minor customs official, and Klara Pölzl (1860–1907), his second cousin, and third wife. Because of the close kinship of the two, a papal dispensation had to be obtained for the marriage. Of Alois and Klara's six children, only Adolf and his younger sister Paula reached adulthood. Alois Hitler also had a son (Alois Junior) and a daughter (Angela) by his second wife. Alois was born illegitimate and for the first thirty-nine years of his life bore his mother's name, Schicklgruber. In 1876, Alois began using the name of his stepfather, Johann Georg Hiedler, after visiting a priest responsible for birth registries and declaring that Georg was his father (Alois gave the impression that Georg was still alive but he was long dead). The name was variously spelled Hiedler, Huetler, Huettler and Hitler and probably changed to "Hitler" by a clerk. About the origin of the name there are two theories: From German Hittler and similar, "one who lives in a hut", "shepherd". From Slavic Hidlar and Hidlarcek. Later, Adolf Hitler was accused by his political enemies of not rightfully being a Hitler, but a Schicklgruber. This was also exploited in Allied propaganda during World War II when pamphlets bearing the phrase "Heil Schicklgruber" were airdropped over German cities.[citation needed] Adolf was legally born a Hitler, however, and was also closely related to Hiedler through his maternal grandmother, Johanna Hiedler. Hitler's given name, "Adolf", comes from the Old High German for "noble wolf" ("Adel"="nobility" + "wolf").[1] Hence, not surprisingly, one of Hitler's self-given nicknames was Wolf or Herr Wolf — he began using this nickname in the early 1920s and was addressed by it only by intimates (as "Uncle Wolf" by the Wagners) up until the fall of the Third Reich.[2] The names of his various headquarters scattered throughout continental Europe (Wolfsschanze in East Prussia, Wolfsschlucht in France, Werwolf in Ukraine, etc.) seem to reflect this. Hitler was not sure who his paternal grandfather was, but it was probably either Johann Georg Hiedler or his brother Johann Nepomuk Hiedler. There have been rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish [1] and that his paternal grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, had become pregnant after working as a servant in a Jewish household in Graz. During the 1920s, the implications of these rumours along with his known family history were politically explosive, especially for the proponent of a racist ideology. Opponents tried to prove that Hitler, the leader of the anti-Semitic Nazi Party, had Jewish or Czech ancestors. Although these rumours were never confirmed, for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins. Soviet propaganda insisted Hitler was a Jew, though more modern research tends to diminish the probability that he had Jewish ancestors. According to Robert G. L. Waite in The Psychopathic God: Adolf Hitler, Hitler made it illegal for German women to work in Jewish households, and after the "Anschluss" (annexation) of Austria, Hitler had his father's hometown obliterated by turning it into an artillery practice area. Hitler seemed to fear that he was Jewish, and as Waite points out, this fact is more important than whether he actually was. Because of Alois Hitler's profession, his family moved frequently, from Braunau to Passau, Lambach, Leonding, and Linz. As a young child, Hitler was reportedly a good student at the various elementary schools he attended; however, in sixth grade (1900–1), his first year of high school (Realschule) in Linz, he failed completely and had to repeat the grade. His teachers reported that he had "no desire to work." Hitler later explained this educational slump as a kind of rebellion against his father Alois, who wanted the boy to follow him in a career as a customs official, although Adolf wanted to become a painter. This explanation is further supported by Hitler's later description of himself as a misunderstood artist. However, after Alois died on January 3, 1903, when Adolf was 13, Hitler's schoolwork did not improve. At the age of 16, Hitler left school with no qualifications.  So now that Hitler has been covered is this the nail in the coffin for this thread? | |||
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Moderator Posts: 3841 Location: San Antonio, Republic of Texas USA | What still to this day has me in tears of laughter is Jackie Gleason--especially in a sketch when he gets hurt and those eyes magnify 100 times...OMG... (johnkascht22058.jpg) Attachments ----------------  johnkascht22058.jpg (93KB - 21 downloads) | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 4937 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Well, I'm back from out of town. I sat in the theater with Satyam and one of our Indian friends to see this movie Borat. I have never laughed so friggin hard in my life. Well, except when Steve Martin's movie "The Jerk" came out, remember that one??? Borat, was sooo hilarious and even my husband and our friend related to this movie. We all had a blast watching it in the movie theater!!! As my husband says, "it was all about being innocent minded". When my husband first came to America he thought that Hot Dogs were dog's Penis's, so therefore he refused to eat one. It was also interesting because all the people in this theater I went to were 90% foreigners. The theater was alive with laughter. It was really great!! I even allowed my DD to see this movie. Its been interesting conversation and comparing our experience with foreigners from other countries. It's not about judgement, its all about cultural differences. If you've ever been around foreigners and learn how they perceive things, then you understand how funny this movie actually is. Besides, if you think of it in reality, we've all been domesticated in some sort of strange way. This movie just reflects the humor in it all. Then we mosy'd over to the movie The Illusionists, what a great movie too!! It had a interesting twist to it. I liked it alot. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 5125 | i haven't seen the film, but the subtitle is hilarious. i certainly see the various points presented in regards to making fun of a culture vs making fun of the confusion when there is a communication barrier. i think that borat is falling a little more toward the second side than the first, but perhaps not--since i haven't seen the film. in a related story, my family hosted japanese exchange students when i was in high school. megumi was a smart, funny girl. we took her to the ozarks (we lived in AR at the time) where we were going on a very old train through the mountains for a dinner-time ride (as part of the whole package of what we did that weekend with her). we were reading the menu for her (you had to choose before the day-of) and one of the offerings was "Cajun Shrimp." she looked this up in her dictionary and her eyes got really wide. She looked at us utterly shocked, and then said "no, this can't be right. . ." she showed us the dictionary which then said "Cajun, a group of people with spanish and native ethnicity living in the area of lousiana in the UC" and "shrimp" had this translation of "small, short, or tiny." so, she thought that one of the offerings was short, cajun people. LOL oh, we got a kick out of that. I used the dictionary to find 'shrimp' as in the animal, and then said it's seasoned as cajun people would season it. nevertheless, she ordered the chicken. lol! i think that this sort of humor, btw, is completely different than eddie murphy, dave chappelle, et al, simply because these are observations of cultural norms--typically within their own races, but not necessarily--and this is a way of bringing various issues to light, in a way that is non-threatening and it also lets off a lot of cultural steam. i think it's important. borat may be dancing a fine line, but i think it's meant in a sense of fun, in a way valuing that cultural difference, rather than in a way of saying "foreigners are stupid." i think Engrish.com is a riot--my DH and i love that. we have lots of foriegn friends (from our trip) and we love their "engrish" versions of things. I didn't know, before going to sweden that people were "trustable" (meaning trustworthy) or that one could be "allergical" to things. but, nevertheless we love them--and that's part of what we love about them. Our finnish friend has trouble with some sounds--but he taught himself english. He says "arrgh" instead of "ear." it's cute. he corrects our finnish too. we can't even say Kukku which means rooster. KUUUH-kuh. No, we have terrible accents. so, it goes both ways.  we're innocent, eager to learn and try. and we laugh at our inability to say things properly like "stroget" which is pronounced stroy-et or thereabouts. We just call it "strogh-get" LOL. | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 1506 Location: Alexandria, VA | If Borat is about confusion of a foreigner, then maybe I'll give him a second shot. I didn't get that impression when he did a stand-up bit on SNL last weekend. I didn't think that was all that funny at all. But maybe the movie is different... once, when I was in Italy (I was 15 and hadn't learned any Italian yet). I was in a store in a small town trying to ask if they ship things to the US.. Turns out I called the lady a ship-and she wasn't exactly small. Oooopppss. She threw me out of the store, I went home, told my aunt what had happened, she got me to understand what I really said (she didn't speak English either).. marched me back to the store and apologized- and then I apologized too! We all made nice, but it wasn't as funny at the time as it is now! | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 4937 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | One of my favorite scene's in this movie was his love for Pamela Anderson....until he saw her sexy video, he cried and then he found Jesus, and then he forgave his Pa Mela and he and his friend Jesus went to find Pa Mela in California. When he did find her....OMG....my Pa Mela, marry me Pa Mela,  as he throws the wedding sack over her head, You have to see the movie to figure out the rest...Okay!? | ||
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Expert Yogi Posts: 4937 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Talking about confusion of a foreigner......last night I had to convince my husband that this movie Borat was not REAL. He had been thinking this for several days. I thought he was joking, but he was dead serious. Oh my, my, my....what to do with him. He kept asking, "well if it wasn't real, where did all those people from Kakastan come from??" I'm like, WTF?? "You can make up people on a movie set". He's still amazed at our technology. Did you know that when Jurassic Park came out, all the Nepalis people went to the theater in Nepal to see this movie. They didn't even understand the English, but loved to watch it. But the interesting part was that they actually thought those dinosaurs were real and that we still had 'wild' jungles...they thought that was America!! The older people especially thought this about the dinosaurs. Its just too funny sometimes, | ||
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